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Michael

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State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« on: April 24, 2008, 08:52:52 PM »

Britain is at the very BOTTOM of the European pension league

WARNING
Whether you are a pensioner or a Cabinet Minister or even a Chancellor of the Exchequer - please be aware that YOU will be shocked at these revelations and in no way can we be held liable or responsible for any seizures or ill health that you may suffer if you continue to read on

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

Country
% of earnings
if applied to UK average earnings of £411

Luxembourg
83% of career average Earnings
£341.13

Italy
83% of last 5 years earnings
£341.13

Portugal
80% of last 5 years earnings
£328.8

Greece
80% of last 2 years average earnings
£328.8

Germany
65% of average earnings
£267.15

Belgium
60% of average earnings
£246.60

France
50% of last 10 years earnings
£205.5

Spain
50% of last 8 years earnings
£205.5

Denmark
40% of average earnings
£164.4

Holland
flat rate equal to minimum wage
£180

Ireland
flat rate (Actual amount)
£106

UK
flat rate equal to 17.63% of average earnings (actual amount)
£72.50


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Phoenix

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 07:46:36 PM »

Michael, Why should We be 'shocked' ?? -- WE already know that we are The poor relations of europe!! The Pensioners that is!! I am sure that our'Cabinet ministers' are fully aware of this, that is undoubtedly why, They have had a Large Increase, In Their pensions Roll Eyes

Really is a great 'warning' of your's?? I wonder just How many Pensioners have died this last Winter, because of lack of Heating and lack of Food Roll Eyes

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I find it Truelly Amazing, just how many Persons in a 'Responcible' Position?? Do Not Consider themselves, LIABLE --- Or Even Responcible!! For 'Their People' but are so used to 'Passing The Buck' Roll Eyes


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mac

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 08:52:20 PM »

If your figures are right Michael,there is something drastically wrong here !


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Michael

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 09:45:01 PM »

Yes my figures are right.


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mac

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 10:47:10 PM »

Michael,a lot of the Eu countries wont have got that amount for a weekly wage will they ? isnt that why they are all coming here ?


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Michael

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2008, 01:24:20 PM »

I believe they have a much fairer spread of wealth across the EU, unlike here in Britain with our very poor and our very rich which all started in the 1980's under Thatcher and Major, and continued by New Labour.


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mac

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2008, 03:25:51 PM »

if thats the case Michael why do they come here ?
No hospital beds
no dentists
no houses etc etc etc
what else could it be ?
not the weather !


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Michael

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2008, 07:12:46 PM »

In my view dont get as many Eastern European immigrant's as we would like to think, we have to believe we get a lot because otherwise there is no point in scapegoating them.

However the UK has a worldwide reputation as a wonderful country that is put about by our media and our politicians,
and I think we get our own rosy picture built in by this.

You see the main trouble with Britain is that we have a long held superiority complex with each other and the rest of the world.


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mac

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2008, 11:27:18 PM »

It couldnt be because of the free handouts could it ?


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Michael

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2008, 02:56:11 PM »

If you truly believe that anybody likes living on our means tested benefits, then you clearly have never been in this situation.


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Phoenix

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2008, 08:04:49 PM »

Michael,It is quite obvious that you do not live in a'working area' as we do?? Yes!! We have been 'means tested' --- which equats to being the wrong colour!!
T'ia a different World ---- HERE!!


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ansu

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2008, 08:42:32 PM »

Michael, there was a time it was said that the sun didn't go down in the British Empire - so, why are you astonished that so many people from your former Empire have only one desire - to come into this "land of glory"? I hope I don't offend you, but I think you should bear in mind that your ancestors always told their subjects, that everything was superior in the UK. Now they want to check whether this is really true.
Moreover, all countries of the Western world have the same problem - African people for instance are much better off in one of the still "poor" European countries than in Africa. Or think of the Mexicans that "invade" the USA.


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Michael

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 10:39:11 AM »

Yes, I know about the Empire and the arrogant British, we not only look down on the rest of the world, we also look down on our own, and the politicians use this narrow mindedness to get votes.

As far as the rest of your posting is concerned, I dont live in Africa, I live in Britain, the 4th richest economy in the world, with an ever increasing rich and poor devide.


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ansu

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 10:49:17 AM »

That's true Michael, but don't forget that the British had many colonies in Africa and still have a lot of influence in Africa.
What a luck for the Brits that Africa is so far away from the UK, so Africans flood mainly Spain and Italy. They come in small boats and many die on their dangerous trip to a better life.
You see, all things have two sides - sorry.


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mac

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Re: State pension levels in Europe, compared with here in the uk.

« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 02:25:15 PM »

Well my pension has gone down by £40 a month,this is the difference the abolishion of the 10p makes to me !
and before any smart Alex says `well you must be on a good screw` I am £5 a week over for benefits !!!
I am sure there are many even worse off too.
But the good news is Gordon has said he is sorry,saying sorry to me means taking it back ? watch this space ! Angry


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