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Phoenix

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2008, 07:17:16 PM »

As it was?? so shall it never be!!
Discipline ?? we was brought up with it and with it came respect!! -- this is what I have said all along, without it, there is nothing, as with today!!
bye the way ?? Discipline, died along with common sense!!
Both, sadly missed.

Teri , ?? Would I be prepared to die for another country ?? Not on Your life!!


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ansu

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 08:03:28 PM »

Phoenix, but that's what's expected from today's soldiers.


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mac

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 09:47:35 PM »

Do I recall the Russians being in Afghanistan once...and they left with nothing only loss of life and debt.


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Val

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2008, 07:45:54 AM »

They do still have discipline and respect in the forces but you only hear about the awful things. If you'd have been with me on my daughters passing out parade you'd have seen it yourselves. I don't want you getting the wrong idea about the forces today a bit of the old Britain is alive and well in Her Majesty's forces.


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ansu

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 09:06:25 AM »

Val, I don't want to contradict you - but the question is - when they die in Iraq and Afghanistan they actually don't die for their country, but for a country where only a minority welcomes them. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I understood from our media.
I know, in schol I learnt that there is a big difference between your army (professionnel army) and our army (which every healthy young man has to join).


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william

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 04:33:56 PM »

Of course theres discipline in the armed forces, they cant become a fighting force without it. The americans slways appear more relaxed with their officers, but nevertheless, when an order is given its obeyed at once. We should never be in Iraq, that was Blair using the WMD as an excuse. Afghan is a more complex question, I am not sure what we are trying to acheive there. The Russians with their millions couldnt subdue them, so theres little hope we can. Back to dtscipline, I amsure we have all watched the Edinburgh Tattoo, that is a great example of the discipline needed to carry out those manouvers.


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Val

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2008, 07:29:02 AM »

They are serving their country wherever the order is to go, the fighting in Iraq etc may be wrong but that is the politicians choice not the armed forces, they are just obeying orders that they receive and in their view serving their country because that is where the order came from. I guess the old adage applies, theirs is not to reason why theirs is but to do or die.Its those at the top that get it wrong.


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william

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Re: Lord Tebbit: 'I could have been a hoodie if I hadn't joined the Air Force'

« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2008, 08:10:15 PM »

I SAW A PROG ON TV ABOUT HEROS. IT APPEARS THIS SOLDIER THREW HIMSELF ON TOP FF A HANDGRENADE TO SAVE HIS COMRADES, LUCKILY HE SURVIVED.YOU CANT GET BRAVER THAN THAT


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