Phoenix, it's true after WW II people had a common aim, i.e. to build up again their destroyed country. After the fall of the wall many people in Eastern Germany complained that as long as there was the Democratic Republic of Germany they had a common aim, i.e. to queue up to get all kinds of goods, now all is available, you just must have the money to buy it.
Thus the question is - which time is better.
Perhaps you call me a "kill-joy", but as we in Germany say after some time many things get a wreath of rays (are idolized).

Mac ask your MPs, there's no EU involved, that's sure!

Mac on our TV they said some days ago that when we will have an EU treaty and an EU parliamwent, many MPs in the individual countries will no longer be required, i.e. each country will save a lot of money!

We might save a lot of money Teri, but I wager the man in the street wont see any of it.

What I mean by the man in the street Teri, is the ordinary working man,Would we see a drop in income tax, a rise in pensions, a highering of the minimum wage,of course we wont

AH!! To Be Sure There is so much 'Distorsion of The Truth' Today?/  Who actually Knows what is right or wrong anymore The 'Ordinary Person' in the street, has absolutely No Idea, of what the power's to be, will bring out Next?? --- Hope You people Do Not have More Than FIVE HOLES in Your Salt Dispencer
Councils Here!!  Are witholding Large suns of Money and Not Repairing Roads??  Just in case 'They Get Sued' --- Schools ?? New schools are being Built, but still Does Not raise The Standard of Education for The Pupils ---- A - subsidises B:    B - susidises C: ETC!!  ETC!! so in the end, very little, gets to be 'Made Better'

PS Poland has just voted is that right ?

I might be wrong here Teri,but did I read the EU want one army for all Europeans ? which will do away with NATO