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Phoenix
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« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2008, 03:16:44 PM »

Perhaps they have 'learnt' NOT to waste othere peoples Money ?? -- If that is correct?? Why don't other Councils just TRY IT?? -- Roll on April??  The Increase here is the same as our pension.   Increase Gone in The First Bill!!

Now let us see ??  What can WE cut down on  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2008, 11:07:50 PM »

Anybody Watched,  Mr. Enoch Powell and his Speech Tonight ?? -- I found it 'rivetting'!! -- There was a man with some 'Foresight' but never lived to see just how right he was!!
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« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2008, 11:51:24 PM »

Do you think that is one of the reasons why they put it on ?
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« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2008, 02:19:11 PM »

Mac, Yes!! I think that is the reason. No one is saying that He was perfect?? -- Nobody is!!-- It is certainly Not common for anyone to have such 'foresite'-- Consequently!! He was a very brilliant man!! -- Wish we had More like him?? Possibly, there would not be so many problems?? ---
 Prevention is far better than Cure (or trying to) Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There certainly are No great Men or Women of Today, as 'they' all seem to sit on the fence  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2008, 12:36:13 AM »

Enoch was not well liked at the time by any party,wonder why ?
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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2008, 04:50:54 PM »

Hello Mac, Possibly because He looked at the situation, in a different light?? -- He had a vision, of just how 'things' would develope in 1/2 decades -- He was quite Right!! -- Can You think of anyone else, that would stand up and 'Project' what the Future would bring?? I Cannot!!
Why do 'those' persons feel so 'terrible' that it is a Major Crime to be Wrong ?? Everybody is Human and we all make mistakes -- just a part of Life!! -- How about His 'Boss' Taking us into The E.E.U in 1972 ?? ---
 What a Shambles?? Heath by name, and bog heath by nature??
 36 years later and just what progress has been made??
 I wish that I could find,some difference between them all, I Just Cannot  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2008, 02:54:55 PM »

Having just received an email about Returning 'Armed Forces' to their own country of Canada I was 'Gobsmacked' at 'Their' reception?? In Showing Deep Respect!! -- I have sent this email out to ALL my Contacts!! -- WHY HuhHuh

Simply Because of The Verbal Abuse OUR Armed Forces are receiving from Other Cultures Huh  Here In Peterborough!!

All 'Decent' English People should be Totally Ashamed, that such as these Deplorable 'Standards' are Permitted??
 Do Not Dare To Offend The Other Cultures  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2008, 06:05:34 PM »

I heard about that phoenix who was it that was giving the abuse I thought it was the brits in their hoodies ?
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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2008, 09:12:13 PM »

It has been said in the papers that the verbal abuse was carried out by muslims ??  possibly because of our 'forces' fighting in their country??
Our local paper has been full of this -- 'foul play' and just Why ?? it should have been Tolerated!! much more has been said!!
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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2008, 12:51:38 PM »

Our Country is in a mess because we British are largely a politically docile nation, immigrants/asylum seekers/the homeless, single parents mothers, are not to blame, these people are merely being used as scapegoats for a dilapidated
system.

Since Margaret Thatcher's era, Britain has adhered to market forces and profiteering, these policies have left us without council housing, and as a result house prices have soared.

The role of the British state has been allowed to erode, in favour of Britain's Communities being devolved from central Government funding via national income tax, onto local council tax which was initially poll tax.

Income tax no longer increases to fund our local services UK wide, local council tax does, and it hits the poorest people in our communities the hardest, namely the elderly, and the low waged.

Our leading politicians have got it made while we all stand as a nation and say, and do, nothing, and even if we were to stand and be counted, while we moan and blame those on the fringes of our Society, because we cannot "think" any further than that, our policians again are laughing their heads of, at us, because devide and conquer is the oldest political trick in the book.
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« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2008, 12:49:06 AM »

Hello Michael, Glad to see you are back!! -- I am sure that we would agree, that this once wonderful country of our's, is now in a much worse state than last year??
I agree with much of which you say. Few, will stand and 'Speak out' against the system ?? -- So the majority will not 'Rock The Boat'?? -- This Country is in one hell of a mess, but just how many are really interested?? For those that do speakout, is akin to talking in the wilderness -- Goes unheard?? -- For those in power?? what can one say?? Busy lining their own pockets, at othere's expence?? - Where Is The begining and where is the end ??
 There is so much to discuss, but can also make one quite irate!!
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« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2008, 03:24:29 PM »

Hi Phoenix,  Yes I agree, and ive been up to my neck in pensioners issues for 20 years, up against the media, the press, and public apathy, all rolled into one, and the most apathetic in my experience are the richer pensioners to their poorer counterparts, there is that kind of Thatcher arrogance, dismissive, typically British, centred on class, is it any wonder we have the politicians we do, some people just cannot see themselves.
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« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2008, 11:50:59 PM »

Wow,out of order Michael
Pensioners rich (as you say)or  poor should all get the same
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« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2008, 01:36:55 PM »

Mac that wouldn't be just - at least in Germany - some pay more in the pension institution when they are working and others less.
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« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2008, 02:21:13 PM »

Teri,same here we all  get the same pension,but if you worked you get more (earnings related)and you actually get less for  paying it in because you are taxed !and the ones that didnt pay in will get subsidised with their rates etc
What is the point in paying into pensions to be worse off ?
My friend gets his rates paid (£1300) and there is only a £5 diffences in our pensions,so for that £5 I have to pay for everything,which in effect costs me more ?
We have a crazy system here Teri made up of crazy people !!!
not offence to anyone just me opinion.
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