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Phoenix
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July 11, 2007, 10:02:50 PM »
I find it rather strange, that no comment has been made, regarding, Liverpools New Museum Opening on Aug: 23rd. Commemorating The Bicentenary of The Abolition of The British Slave Trade ?? The Cost -- £10 million ?? Phew??
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Phoenix
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July 12, 2007, 08:39:15 PM »
Guess Nobody in Interested in This subject to debate ??
Why?? Because Nobody has read it !!
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Skeggy
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July 13, 2007, 06:48:51 PM »
Well i'm all for any museum ...and liverpool does owe a lot of its existance to the slave trade even tho it was dirty money.
I'm sure it will get quite a few visitors. Its a major part of Liverpools history and i also beleive our grandchildren should learn about the way people trafficking was carried out. I used to visit a lot of museams when i could get around...A couple of years ago we went on a coach tour that called at liverpool and I went to the Beatles Museum on Albert Docks, Fantastic place for a life long beatles Fan like myself to visit.
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Phoenix
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July 14, 2007, 09:48:16 PM »
I really do believe, that Museums should be Educational!! But!! In relevance to the slave trade, I personally would have liked to see £10 million Spent in a much better way! To Benifit Our People!!
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Skeggy
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July 15, 2007, 11:42:50 AM »
I was recently brousing Best of British Magazine and noticed that this year is Liverpools 800th Birthday Celebrations...Lots of cultural events organised to bring tourists in to the City...We have to remember that tourism is one of the most lucrative industries of this period in history...£1000's will be made by these events which will benefit the people of liverpool.
This money that will build this musium comes from a seperate pot, If it hadn't been put up to be used to build this musium it would have gone on some other form of Art. If it brings in school trips and other tourists that will use hotels, shops and other recreation facilities then it will in the long run benefit liverpool has a whole
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Phoenix
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July 16, 2007, 03:08:09 PM »
Delighted that you feel, Liverpool will have an advantage --(one Town)-- My preference wopuld be for all of our country to receive benifits for all of it's people: I suppose I would go for -- All or nothing??
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July 23, 2007, 01:04:36 AM »
The town halls have to put in for these grants Phoenix
if they dont they dont get !
Stockport put in for one for the underground air raid shelters and got it.Well worth a visit.
If a town has something to offer then they can apply too.
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ansu
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November 24, 2007, 11:15:52 AM »
Hi Phönix,
just for your information this issue is dealt with in German schools - so even if there's little interest in the UK for this topic, it's a current "European" topic.
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Phoenix
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November 24, 2007, 07:54:46 PM »
Hello Teri, Thank You for the Enlightenment! There are really so many things wrong in this country and so much Money 'wasted' that I just prefer that hard cash, goes to benifit problems that assist in People's health AND QUALITY OF LIFE:
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ansu
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November 24, 2007, 10:17:17 PM »
On the one side you are right there still has to be much done to improve people's health and their quality of life, but on the other side we must learn from our past and you know in our today's world we have also "slave trade" - in another form than shown in the Liverpool Museum.
In Germany we often have special exhibitions in our Museums on a particular issue (of the past) and in my opinion it's quite interesting and those exhibitions are always very crowded, so there's a demand for such issues.
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Phoenix
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November 25, 2007, 04:32:01 PM »
Teri, Everybody has their own beliefs and priorities.
So many terrible things have happened in the past, never to be Forgotten!! -- If Only, people would Learn from past mistakes, then and only then, can we all look towards a better Future!! -- But Is it really possible for ALL The people, to 'Forgive' and yes?? Forget - and Go Forward Together, giving mutual support
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November 27, 2007, 05:29:42 PM »
Phoenix,
I suppose you know I'm German - so as you may say - on the other side of this sad issue. However, when I was still at school I met an English family and as a symbol of friendship and forgiveness they invited me to spend my holidays with them in England. It was a great time for me and I would even say it marked my whole life. I believe bad things cannot be forgotten, but we can try to forgive each other. The slaves caught in Africa and transported to America under miserable conditions and sold there, they certainly have forgiven the white man their cruel fate in the meantime, but it wouldn't be good to forget it. As far as I can judge it's still part of the American problems.
As to WW II it was a war that made no sense (my family for instance had lived in Hungary for 200 years and from one day to the other we had to leave with only our clothes on the body, but it would make no sense to be angry with the Hungarians - many people had to leave the place where they lived for the one reason or other).
Thus we all must look forward and I hope that "at least" our grandchildren will be "Europeans" and no longer, Germans, English, French etc.
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November 27, 2007, 10:26:17 PM »
Hello Teri, I did actually surmise that. I loved germany and travelled Europe quite extensively in the 1960s.
Germany was the Best, because I also worked for a german machine tool company. My last Holiday was in 1987 and spent a week in The Harz Mountains, as well as a week, close by The VW works etc: Visited The Camps as well.
All Nations have shown cruelty in the Past and there is no excuse. Indoctrination and Discipline, are solely responcible!! -- Maybe! just maybe, ALL people will be treated as Equal?? -- The E.E.C. began in 1972 and still there is NO -- Equality!! What makes one believe, that it can possibly Work ?? -------- Not Me!!
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ansu
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November 29, 2007, 07:20:33 PM »
naturally there will never be equality - the economic conditions are too different, (but look at your country of my country, not all regions are equal - some are more powerful from the economic point of view), but what's more important - in my opinion - is that people understand and appreciate each other and accept the differences. German pupils learn a lot of foreign language and take part in a lot of exchanges (with the UK it's a bit difficult, I don't know why). Last month Chinese pupils visited a school in our town and our pupils will visit them next year. Someone said some time that if you remove the skin from human beings they are all the same and their differences are formed by the skin and the different culture they grow up - so why shouldn't it be possible to develop an European culture?
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November 29, 2007, 07:36:46 PM »
Hi Terri, its an old saying here, if all the money was shared out equally on Saturday, there would still be rich people and poor people on Monday.
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