Not Dead Yet - Liverpool Museum:

ansu

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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2007, 09:55:34 PM »

That's quite calming to hear that "oldies" also have problems in the UK. However, as to Germany I think it's above all the media that aggravates this conflict. Let the young generation work 40 or 45 years - then they certainly will speak differently.


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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2007, 11:48:55 PM »

William, Never thought for one moment, that only our Country, was the only one with problems. Seems All Over??

Teri, It is hard to remain 'calm' here. As I have a 'Wacky' sense of Humour!! I do certainly have a Laugh, about some of the situations that happen. There is so little Common Sense shown by people and most of it sure comes from the young generation, that indeed, knows so little about Life!! ---- It is really 'Wonderfull' to have You on our Forum. I Trust that You enjoy our Company!!
The Young will learn when they receive No Pensions??


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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2007, 08:00:31 PM »

Phoenix, if I didn't enjoy your company, I wouldn't post any comments.
You say the young generation will receive no pension - is this a joke - they will probably receive less than you do, but they still have many years before them and be honest, if they would save a little bit of money now, they would have it when they are old - in Germany we say - save in time then you have when something when you require it. I don't know the situation in the UK, but in Germany many young people travel to countries I can only dream of or buy things I never would spend money for. When I was young, I was told not to spend too much money at all.


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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2007, 09:01:26 PM »

the prediction is, that when these yougsters retire, there wont be any Gov. money to pay them a pension.
Everyone is encouraged to take out personal pensions, but that is fraught with danger as a few yrs ago there was a monetary collapse and a lot of people lost a lot of monney


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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2007, 11:28:21 PM »

Teri, Don't mis-understand!! I really feel for those young people here. -- Those working, are hard put to for Buying a Home, with a high risk of losing it later on in life.-- The other type of young people, do not want to work and receive 'Dole Money' for their keep. (social security)-- we have a high crime rate and drug rate!!
There is Good and Bad. Some really do try!! othere's wil;l NOT!!---- The way that you describe, is how life used to be in the 50/60s. but Not now!!-- We Believed that,"SAVE FOR A RAINY DAY" = WE DID!! -- But for those of Today?? Extremelly Hard.


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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2007, 09:00:56 PM »

That's true Phoenix. However, in Germany we sometimes ask wo are their parents - why didn't they teach them that you cannot spend all the money you earn. When our economy didn't boom any longer, everybody was frustrated, but there are also ups and downs in this sector.
Many German families have debts, but debts have to be paid back and that's what some people just forget.


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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2007, 10:42:49 PM »

Hi Teri, You are so right. In this Country,so very many people are in deep debt, that there is no way out. Thousands of Homes are being Re-claimed, and not always through their own fault. I cannot understand just why?? some people get so heaverly into Debt, as the interest they have to pay back, must be something terrible.
It appears to be the same, all over!! -- It can only get Worse??


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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2007, 03:34:37 PM »

The other side of the coin is : if you didnt pay into a pension you are no worse off than if you did ! sometimes you are better off, I think it is this that causes the ill feelings in this country, so I think the young think "well why should we" especially since many have been ripped off by the pension holders (the fat cats) and even the governments.


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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2007, 05:13:22 PM »

Hi Mac, There is a great tendency to agree with you!!
Can't say I really blame this young generation for the way they think and feel?? -- I am so Glad that I was Not brought up this way!! -- Yes. There really have been Many "Rip Offs" -- But then ' they' do call our country ----"RIP OFF BRITAIN" Huh


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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2007, 11:56:12 PM »

What you say is logical, but we are a solidary community (as we call it in Germany), so everybody has to care for everybody - if nobody pays into the old age pension system then there is no money available and the welfare aid is covered by taxes, at least in Germany, i.e. taxes have to be increased to pay welfare aid to everybody.
I can't see any advantage in this.


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« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2007, 12:52:56 AM »

Hi Teri, There are a lot of personal Carer's in this country, who look after their Old Parents and friends, with absolutely No Help from the state. Some Medicines, are Expencive and yet are FREE in Scotland??
We are also quite heaverly,- Taxed!!


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« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2007, 09:30:16 AM »

Can't you apply for a so-called "Carer's aid". In Germany, if you look after your parents who have a disease you can apply for a carer's aid - it's not much, but more than nothing. Moreover, there are a lot of self-help groups.


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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2007, 11:39:08 AM »

We have carers aids too.in THEORY. Not only is it difficult to get help but you have to have a means test, which still carries a stigma.All the oeople i know who have carers have to pay something towards it.


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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2007, 12:43:13 PM »

Hi William, As you have stated 'Theory' Seldom Works. ---
This is 'supposed' to be a Caring Society, in Theory??
But for so many, in their own Home, it does not Work!!


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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2007, 01:30:40 PM »

We do have very good sheltered housing for some of the people.


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