Guess we cannot have 'IT' whatever that may be??
Eve's grandson/partner has just had a lovely baby Girl.  Received £250 from our government (put in trust) He?? has a week paid, maternity grant -- and now Mac states they will get £150 for Heating ?  Remeber the days when WE had children   WE did not get OR want any Help!!  It was OUR responcibility to bring those children up ----- AL BY Ourselves?? -- HOW ON EARTH DID WE MANAGE THAT

Phoenix, don't you think we also would have been happy if we had got money from the government when our children were born?

Yes I tend to agree phoenix,Teri there are far too many hand outs here for idlers in particular.
Dont forget the cost of all this by the tax payer too.
Its not a fair system the workers wont get it and they have kids too !and they arent all on good wages either.

Quite simple really phoenix,
a living wages for all including pensioners.!

Phoenix, I must contradict you - there may be a few, but - at least in Germany the majority of the young don't want any children at all and if only one child. And today it's easier to take preventive measure than when we were young. I was a so-called "industrial accident" as we call it in Germany - my mother was just 18 years old and my father 20. So as an incentive young people get money in Germany, but the success is really modest. Only our Turks etc. get a lot of children, but they have another mentality. Some years ago I spoke to a young Turkish couple on honeymoon  - I said "children cost a lot of money" they told me "children are a lot of fun"!

Maybe it's different in the UK. However, you always were better off than we. When I was in England in the sixties young married couples could get small homes at a very attractive price and when the home was too small they could move in a bigger one.

In one of our most popular German papers there was a comment on Brown today - it was not at all flattering. Is he so unpopular and does even Blair critisize him?