why should we have to ask, the know if we are behind with out council tax, income tax, they know we are there at election time.how is it, they dont know we are here when we want summat

Hello Mac, They say that us English, do not complain enough and sometimes, we cannot be bothered 

Senior Citizens. The forgotten 'section' of this, our country. Do we really moan ?? No!! I simply believe it is because we understand 'fairness' in all it's true meaning.
Never believing, that we would be fogotten and ignored -- How wrong we was!! -- The one thing we have learned, is to be economical and not waste. With the weather being sooo Cold ??  As Mac States, put on more 'layer's' and keep the Thermostat, down a notch or two. But make sure that you keep well:

Now lets get this thread back to "Crime", yes I have read your posts about being cold etc etc,,,,now let us just for a moment Imagine?

One day along time ago, your Fathers and forefathers fought for this Country (I did say imagine), they laid their lives down for this place called England!!!!! (Hello are you still listening??) And those people set you in stead to do the same thing!!! (Now your imagination is working isnt it?). They want us to forget all of that dont they? Oh no we wont!!!! We will suffer like those before us suffered, we will listen to the MP's saying we have to cut back on what heating we use,,,,,,,,Hello Mr MP, when was the last time you could not afford your electric Bill, when was the last time you had to put an extra jumper on to keep warm? The reason you give us a ?250 a year grant,,,excuse the expression (Grant) is because you are the same person that is having your bills paid by us, by Us I mean the pensioner, and that is only for the second home that you have purchaced at our expence whilst you have been in office.

You have just given ?5 million to Gazza to help with their needs,,,,Hello try doing the same here for the millions of pensioners your turning your back on. No we dont want a free Flu jab,,,,,,evidentially every time a young mother over here buys a pack of Pampers nappies she is giving some unknown african baby a chance to live with an injection,,,,,Why is this allowed to happen? The Fathers out there should be working like the Fathers here work to keep the babies that they are expert on producing.

Give the pensioner here a decent pension and change the world, let your people have the opportunity of switching on the heating to keep warm in the winter months, let your pensioners have food on the table instead of having to scrimp and save. These are the people that you owe it too, not some micky mouse outfit that has no sense of priority, remember what your pensioners gave...End of Rant.For now.

Chris for your information, German pensioners don't get any heating grant (only people living on income support get it). I have never hard any pensioner moaning on account of this.

In Germany the amount of your pension depends on the amount you have earned and paid in the system and the years you have worked. We have many pensioners who receive a small pension (women), about the same amount as your pensioners, but we also have people who have a very good pension. I myself have only a small pension, but I have the possibility of earning an extra by giving private lessons.
Many many years ago I talked to an old lady and she told me that she had a very small pension and the only luxury she offered herself was a bar of chocolate every week.

Many years ago in Morocco,I met with a german lady,and we discussed pensioners,I wasnt one at this stage,and she said she didnt know how we managed on what they give us after all those years of paying it in.This went over my head somewhat as i was only young.
But I know what she meant now.The Irish look after their pensioners,so do other Eu countries but not us we only give, give, give, to the EU thus leaving the pensioners short,so there will be jobs for the boys !

Teri we are talking here about the working and middle classes who are taxed to the hilt to keep all these people who are coming here, these people are paying into a private pension because they wont get one from the state,thats finished now for them,as has the widows pension too,all gone now,they have seen their investments fall to an all time low,and with the  Global economic situation too they are scared.Very many mumbers are moving abroad to Australia etc,note not the Eu,these are the very people that kept it going financially.We will only be left with the Riff Raff from the Eu bloc countries and the Africans,and of course us pensioners.Heaven help us !!!! cos the government wont !