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Thanks for that Val!!  have some 50s in Computer and  often have a "Sing a Long"  keeps me going ?????

Hi Phoenix, why don't you join in the music riddle?

Time is really getting 'Divided' -- and it is hard to complete things as we are now. I am going into my music more to relax my heavy head ????

I see,Phoenix. In Germany we say you are "switching off" when you are listening to the music.

Not at all!!  I am reminising about the 40/50/60s. Wishing the standards and the people of today, were more 'familiar' of how life progressed in a steady way, that was easy to understand and accept --- before any corruption!!

It was in the sixties that the German "Wirtschaftswunder" started - before there were bombed towns, no work and currency reform.
True the time of "petticoats" and Rock and Roll was a nice time, but when I think back what a lot of ironing, too.

Teri I agree !!!! we used to wash our net underskirts in sugar so it would dry stiff lol but it was never stiff enough was it ? lol

AH!!!!   The Days of The 'DIRNDYL Skirt' ???
AH!!!!   The Great Dancing Days ????????
YES!!!   I remember Them Well !!!!!

Val that was brilliant and although I am in the UK recognised most of the features especially the music. It brought memories flooding back to me and oh how I wish for those good old days again. Thank you.

Hi Elizabeth, glad you enjoyed them, we heard most of them here [UK] anyway thats why I posted it, I loved the days when I could hear the words to songs, not sure if thats to do with my hearing or the sound these days  ;D,

Val, Nothing to do with your Hearing!!  There is No Voice power today, only shouting and the Mike in the mouth.
Remember the music halls ?? no close mics: yet could hear quite clearly -- No Mic: Impediment ???  Oh ! Yes!  The 'Artists' where smartly Dressed, lovely Voices and --- No jumping about on stage!! --- Great!!

Yes Val...thank you for the thread and the chestnut one too
  I can go around the chestnut trees near me and pick up quite a few...the school boys/girls leave them as they go
back to school...and the 60s music was not quite my scene
As i am a big band man and boy...records at four shillings
and tuppence halfpenny each...Glen Miller...my favourite.
  In my young days in the late 1950/s ballroom dancing was still in...you did rock and roll and you were thrown out.
  we went to a sixpenny hop with a live band on Saturdays.

mention of rock and roll of the 50s reminds me when I first met my girlfriend who became my wife.Dancing or should I say bopping to those early rock songs were great, wish I could do them now :-\

Rocking round the clock to Bill Hayley in a flared skirt with a big belt,and then trying to get on a scooter in a very very tight skirt ......... ::)

The headmaster at my Grammar School assaulted a few boys with a cane, and punished an unknown boy who refused to stand on the bus for a female prefect by detaining all the boys, who caught that bus home after school, for two hours for a week, to punish the culprit! :o :o :o 
How things have changed!

I( am willing to bet that those youths grew uo to be good citizens.we all got that dreaded cane, it didnt do us any harm. How on earth can these do-gooders say that corpoal punishment dosnt work, it worked for us.

Mac, times have changed. Boys and girls are no longer dancing rock'n roll, but destroying whatever they get between their hands.

Same here Teri and we are powerless to stop it !
I thank God my kids were born when they were and not now.

mac, there are a lot of good kids out there, I think of them and try to reward good behaviour and try to improve or ignore bad if possible, just like training dogs!

I agree Norman in fact most of the awful behaviour is by drunk or drugged up 30 somethings, imo but I could be wrong, I seem to get nothing but help from the youngsters here when my naughty dog disappears down their skatepark looking in their bags for food.They always offer to get him for me if he goes too far in the bowl.

I know Norman,I have 7 g/kids and they are all diciplined but not mistreated,they are all very much loved, therefor all are doing very well,their parents work long hours but they always have dinner together even if its 9pm,and sundays are family days..............oh and dog days too lol
One day a week they each get up early so they can have breakfast together this can be 6am sometimes but they do it,and it works.If you put the effort in you will reap the rewards.
I dont think its the children its the type of parents they have thats the problem they are the ones who set the example.
Norman training dogs is a lot easier  ;D ;D

Good to see the optimism,val and mac. Our dog agility trainer for example is only 17, but is a national champion, very talented, set up his own business and website. Looking back, many of those born during the War were taking drugs and losing self-discipline during the Sixties, did it all start there? I was a square, or even a cube, so avoided all that!

oh l?,l? Mac - what a wonderful picture!

No Norman,I missed the drugs thing myself,was well brought up me !!! lol and not only that never had the money
actually I tell a lie we were actually very poor,but we knew right from wrong and never needed drugs to be happy,we were happy in a way cos we knew no different !
I would say 70s if it all went wrong,but not sure.I was blessed with a loving family,and a great hubby too !

We were very poor also mac, and my father took me out of school at age 15 to earn some money. I cannot forget the days when we played marbles in the gutter, football in the street, and other games like tipcat, and knock the bobby down and topsy with cigarette cards, and handstands up a wall. Hardly a car to be seen.  An orange and one piece of chocolate at Christmas, not locking the doors, no graffiti that I remember, calling adults Mr or Mrs, no toothpaste or brushhes, outside loo, torn up newspaper on a nail. Bet you remember something like this!lol

I sure do remember it all Norman you missed out marbles,and whip and top,hop scotch lol ohhh and the tar in the cobbles when the sun was hot and it melted lol yuck !!!
how come I still got all my own teeth ? I think its because we never had the sugary things.
maybe the kids of today have too much material things ?

Those simple games! We had bags of marbles, and placed one or two each in the middle of the road. Then we rolled big marbles or ball bearings at them, and kept any we hit, until all were gone.
Cards, we propped one up against a wall, and flicked others at it until it fell, and you won it. Topsy, kept flicking cards until you overlapped one, which you won. Tipcat, overlap a tapered piece of wood on the kerb edge, and whack it with a big stick. It would fly up and was known to break windows. The opponents then threw it back to try to land in your chalked square, to get you out. Hopscotch must be universal, we had to do it in the right order. What was whip and top? Oh yes, rounders, and jack jack shine a light, and don't step on the pavement cracks- there must be books on  old street games and their names in regions!
I'm afraid I ruined a lot of my teeth, as I spent any spare coppers on sweets and fizzy pop, but dentists have done a salvage job since age 16.
Did I read you have started Christmas shopping? How did it go? I await the evil hour when I'm told to write my cards..
On Saturday, I have been invited to play the grand piano for fun in a Church near Swindon, where I went to a wedding recently, and had a little dabble on it and held up the coach going home!

Hey Norman the christmas shopping lasted 4 and a half hours   ::) and I only got a new scarf and gloves !!!!
but I did get stiff hips the next day lol
Whip and top was where you had a stick with string on it and you wrapped it around a spinning top and pulled and it spun round you then had to keep it going for as long as poss.by whipping it.We did that after we had donkey stoned the flags lol
Hey you must be good on the piano Norm,they dont ask you back if you are no good ! what you gonna play ? something lively they can sing along to  8)

We too plated those games. I left school at 14 started work day after boxing day, my mates who were still at school had 2 weeks of, that hurt. While at school used to do a morning and evening paper round,up at 6.30 push a railway barrow up the hill to meet the paper train,(it took 3 of us)load the papers on 3 of us to take it down the hill. then in the shop, sort the papers into our paper bags and then deliver them in hail rain or snow.if we were lucky and got finished in time , home for a dripping sarny, if not it was to school hungry. Good old days, not sure, look back on them with nostalgia tho.

hi mac, never saw whip and top round our way. Not that good, I play using the chord method, that is using left hand chords either block, broken, or arpeggio, and right hand melody mostly. Mostly self taught and from courses off the Net. I can't read and play left hand sheet music very well. Professionals often do the same, from fake books or lead sheets, and don't read music. As long as you have the chords and the melody, you can play any piece really, in the easier keys.
Anything goes for me, old standards, blues, rock, folk, hymns, classical. Rap is my only dislike. It's only for my pleasure, the Church Warden is there with some kids who might want something played from my repertoire. Awfully grand, aren't I?
In the chatroom the other day, I remember someone saying they had a keyboard, was it william I wonder?
And william, you had it harder than me because I only had to deliver papers! My father made me push an old pram a long way and back to a gas works to get coke, most Saturdays, as it was cheaper than being delivered. The bags were too heavy for me to lift, had to get someone to lift them from the chute and arrange in the pram. Surprisingly, it never broke down until I graduated to a pair of sack trucks. I always dreaded seeing someone I knew from school, but one day I passed a teacher, and he blanked me.
 

Hi Norman
the only music I dont like is Jazz.
You knock `em dead on saturday Norman  8)
I dont know if william has a key board or not.
You are lucky Norman I had to get coal and thats heavier than coke lol and do you remember coal bricks....useless they were I always thought,all they did was smoke lol
Do you remember the monkeys and the organ grinder ? and the ginger beer man ?rag and bone man I think you will know of.
I remember when I first saw a foreigner he was indian and selling things from a suit-case he had a turban on too !!! I was fascinated then,and the bookies in the back entries (ginnels) all very secretive since it was illegal lol

William you should have had your porridge first lol

the coke was in very big sacks mac! I got coal bricks as well ( briquettes?), on the bus, only quarter cwt but I was very little!
I will think of your support when i play, good job you haven't heard me.
I remember a rag and bone man, not the others. The first foreigners I remember were some Indians who moved in next door late forties. It was rather disconcerting to be seated in adjoining outside loos with both doing our business!

Ah the outside loo,hours spent cutting the Daily Herald in to squares, making a hole in the corner with a skewer.On a cold winters night you had to be bursting before you went.
No locks on the door, if you heard someone coming, you sang or whistled or coughed, sat there with your foot up against the door. If it was windy and let the paper go down it would blow back past you.heres a song we used ti sing while skipping.
The corporation muckcart was full up to the brim.
the corporation driver fell in and couldnt swim.
He sank to the bottom just like a little stone.
Then we heard him singing, Theres no place like home.

we got on all right with the three Indians named Singh next door, but they were rather highly sexed. they had white girls in ocasionally, including a female near neighbour whose father had a row with them in the street.
they were also charged with rape and assault on a young girl they met in a pub, and brought home. I heard shouting and screaming, and I and others were called as witnesses in Court to this. They got off the rape but not the assault, they claimed she asked for too much money for the sex.

This thread has certainly brought back some very happy memories  We played all the games mentioned near where i lived there was an area where some houses had been pulled down the rubble was left for yesrs There were quite a few children lived around so we used to make shops among all this rubble A roof slate with a stone on the back of it was a scale very tiny stones were sweets then a little larger for bread pieces of glass for money Oh the hours we spent being shopkeepers WHERE did it all go wrong

Pauline thats the million dollar question !
wish I had the answer

We've got too big and times have moved too fast, are there any locals in towns and villages left? It seems everyone is a stranger these days.

Bang on Val,it used to take hours to do the shopping here, because everyone you  knew and you stopped and had a word with them. Not now,i sometimes go down the village now and dont see anyone I know. So difficult to keep up with gossip lol

Take me back to the 50s and 60s!!  What a wonderful thought. Before  everything started to go just plain crazy. No one actually has The Answer, although many have asked. So many new Idea's are out there Today, but!! do they actually Work ?? Most people say NO!!  So why nor 'fall back' on 'Tried and tested methods' that Did work ?? ---- Ah!! Would Cost too much to Re- Implement????

As most of you know I have been away,it was one of those tinsel and turkey hols,so mostly pensioners,I went for my paper each morning and people I saw on the way smiled and said `good morning` this happened throughout the day !
So I am going to try it here ..............to see what happens I will let you know. :-\

I do it every morning mac when I take the dogs, you get all different sorts of people on the way to the beach, some going to work, children going to school, others just walking up to get their paper. Every person I pass I say good morning to and all respond, the only ones that don't are those that don't hear. Its funny sometimes to see the startled look, then the smile then the good morning some even stop and chat about the dogs. Its lovely seeing a glum face break into a smile. I always told my kids even if you feel down, smile and it tells your brain that you're happy and so you cheer up. It does seem to work.

Isnt it nice Val,ok we all got to make an effort to say good morning and see what happens !

I also wear a funny hat to keep the ears warm, it gets a bit blowy on the front but I don't expect you to wear that as well. :D

Lol Val,it was that windy my hair turned to straw lol
I went and got it cut off,then I had to buy a hat cos my head was cold !!!! so yeh I do wear one now  ;D

it helps to be leading a nice dog mac, if you're a man.
Norman + dog + greeting =  a reply or a smile, or a chat
Norman alone + greeting =  varied guarded responses

dogs seem to be a "babe magnet" as they say, why do women trust a man with a dog I'd like to know, and not always without one?

You are quite right Norman..........dont know the answer !
but its nice isnt it when people actually talk to you !

I think people are trusting the dog to know when someone is friendly ;D so if you've got a happy looking dog with you the thoughts are, well the dog loves him so he must be okay. I can see all sorts of holes in this way of thinking but it is first impressions.If you just glance smile and a quick good morning then look away no one is going to take you for a perv, most of the time its the shock of someone speaking that startles them.

Ah!! The sweet memories of  achnowledging People, with respect and maybe a little chat. was it not great??
 

I remember some if not most of the 50's with great niceness. Mothers were home looking after the Children and the house. People would stop and chat in the Street, sometimes for an hour at a time, Men would walk past and doff their caps to the Ladies.

Children were safe out playing in the local parks, and the apperatus in the park were of steel construction, swings made od Scaffolding and rope and the seats nothing more than an old tyre. Yes we would come home with a few bruises and cuts, but hey ho we were out there enjoying ourselves, if the injury needed to be seen in a hospital, straight down there and seen straightaway.

Oh if the Children of today could live the same life that we did??????

I think they do here mac,its the evenings that seems to bring out the druggies drunks and yobs, during the day I see the kids in the skate park, the mums and dads too. The playpark has usually got youngsters in during the holidays. I know some of the youngsters, they stop and speak or stroke the dogs, in fact I like living here, everyone seems to have a normal lifestyle it could be its a small place because Canterbury I hate, its like another world.

The 1950s!!  Great times. People were Happier and safer!!
less Crime fewer criminals about. The NHS. started in 1948, No ties with europe after helping 'them' out twice ??
 No 'elf and safety' idiots??  T'was another World, compared with Today!!

Going back to the 50s plus another 20years  Pheonix, living in a village, i remember we had 2 joiners shops, a blacksmiths,2 fish n chip shops, 2 veg and fruiterers, who went round the village for custome, 1 by van, 1 by horse and cart.milk was delivered by horse and cart, with milk churns and a half pint and a pint measure, coal was delivered in sack straight down the coal shoot. Parraffin man who sold hardware stuff. happy days.

Those simple and personal services gave us the pleasure of remembering them Today:  " The Personal Touch" --

Hope this works for you.if the link fails to open on a click, copy and paste to your browser.

http://worriersanonymous.org/Faith/Reading/Dave/Mademe.htm

50s werent my favourite time,we often had no shoes,and I being the eldest had to go for the coal or coal bricks,and take the rags to the rag yard !we were very often hungry too !
I much prefer the 60s  ;D

I liked that link Chris, just wish it was less American, I must admit I love all the modern stuff, computers,washing machines, dish washers and most of all central heating. I remember when the windows frosted up on the inside, the oven door was left open in the kitchen whilst we waited for the fire to get going and if anyone sat in front of it, the rest of the room was cold, all the doors had to be kept shut to keep the cold out.I like the freedom of modern times but miss the safety on the streets of years ago.

I miss the safety too Val
but most of all I miss sunday afternoons,when we all gathered at grandmas house,and someone would play the piano
then the home made scones would come out,and it was always best butter,not like it is now ! bought from the Co-Op loose lol as was the sugar and tea all in a blue sort of cone type packet.
I can taste them now...........mmmmm heavenly  ;D

Is'nt it amazing, just how much we remember from those days. That's why I buy the "Best of British" magazine, to keep me in conntact.

Chris, have placed the home page into my favourites, although my 'Web Guard' shows a warning ??

What Web Page have you saved to Favorites Pheonix???

As your above "worriersanonomous" ??

My memories are nice from the 50's, I think thats why even today I like Children, well I went toSchool with them all those years ago and we had loads of fun, we would help the builders that were building a new estate, infact the building site became our playground. When I go back occasionally to see my brother we walk around and think and talk of the times we spent playing on the scaffolding and sliding down those really long ladders that ran up the side of such.

At weekends we used to start the dumper trucks up and drive them around the fields, the workmen always had to go and find them on Monday mornings. But no damage was ever done. All that by the time I was ten,,,,oh how naughty we were. :o :o :o

`elth and safety` wouldnt let you now Chris :D

I want to know who this Elf and safty gezzer is,,,,,,,cause I anna smack him one,,,,,lol

In the Fifties I lived in a town on the edge of the lakes, we moved to a new house in 1956 our row was the first built.
Oh the fun we had in the school holidays and week-ends playing on the building site that would become the rest of the estate, (I didn't drive any dumpers though)I suppose my parent's worried about us ,or maybe they didn't maybe they just enjoyed the peace.

Chris, When you find a long queue of people, then you had better get inline to 'Thump' the 'elf andsatety geezerssss?? Sure has to be lots of them  ::) ::) ::)

The fifties oh what fun we had !

and another lol
can you imagine the girls of today in these clothes

Used  to be  roasted  in um  mac ...  we had  them in the 60s also  ..... an  bottle  green nickers lol :o ;D

Yeap and guess who had the bottle opener????? ;)

By the way has any one seen Monty today?????? ;) ;) ;)

Did u keep your hanki in your nicker slops joe

That  would be  telling what i  kept in mi  nickers lol ;D
   
    Bet u  ask all the  ladies  that William

Double gussets come to mind,,,lmao

there was a little pocket to keep your hankie in , what a stupid place to have a pocket ..

 did any of you play marbles ? have'nt seen any marbles for ages , dont know if the children of today would know what to do with them .

 and did any of you girls have a whip and top ,   they are no longer around now ,

Always  had whips n  tops  an  marbles  ....did  they have  them in germany   ?  thought it was  native to England  ...way  back to the   victorian  days  ..... 8)

I have found out today why women had double gussets in their knickers,,,,,,they were waiting for the invention of the viberating mobil phone........ well come on they had to have smewhere to put it didnt they ;) ;) ;)

OH!!  So what was cami-knicks for and french knicker's  ::) ::)

Ya''ll  have  to Goggle it  Phoenix , an   hope ya glass's  dont get  steamed  up 8)

Going blind now !!!!!!    :o :o :o

Ah!  Sweet Memories!!  my partner still has her 'Baby Doll' Pyjamas, from when we met 20 years ago. Black of course!!
(wrapped up for 'posterity')  Ah! Sweet Memories!!  Perchance to continue ------ Dreaming  ::) ::) ::)

I suppose yave  got moth balls  has  well Phoenix
 Please tell me ya havent lol :'(

Hi Joe, Hope that You are ok!! --- Mothballs ?? canna abide the taste ?? -- But a 'Peek' now and then, does wonder's for my sweet memories.  Lol! Lol!

laffing  at ya  Phoenix , with everything  you remember an use , i just  thought ya  might still use um lol , A little  memory we'd sooner  forget lol

Some still do Joe
in their wallet ! ;)

Yes in deed Mac lol ....we name them in one lol ;D

Lol

Joe, really ??  mothballs went out years ago. Don't know what you are suggesting Lol!  Lol!

as far as I know you still can get them in Germany. Want you to send me some to you???

Who remembers this

Mac  , mi mother used  the Daz , ya  got  a free plastic  rose   wif  it  lol  all the  ruddy  street  had um on the  window bottom  , so funny  ...

Do you know my friend Joe

Oh  we  do   mac     ;D

Oh dear did we really go to school like that !

Mac, really!! do you not remember those days?? Smart and respectable clothes worn ?? so unlike today, when wearing a lot less is the 'norm' ---- Yuk!!

Here is a nice photo for you to look at phoenix
its the canal near me,they still have the barges going up and down.
I actually painted this one and my son nabbed it !!!

this one sadly has bit the bullit

here is another nice view

this is lovely in summer

I bet it does,It doesnt look too bad in the winter either.

No, its a lovely spot Phoenix

looks nice where you live, Mac.

Ty Teri
it is about 20 minutes away from me.
The canals are still used by the barges,some live on them and others just holiday or pleasure time there.

Hi Mac, Lovely picture of the canal. More so when enlarged and I have saved it. Just the place to rest and relax, with a ciggy and a flask of coffee, leaning on the fence posts and in total bliss!!

Ty Phoenix
I take that as a compliment then lol xx

As a compliment, most assuredly!!  Have already 'oggoled' it today --- again. s'nice!!

oggoled !!!!! What a lovely word Pheonix!!! ;) ;) ;) Love it love it love it ;) ;) ;) ;)

Isnt he a star !!!!

One of the nicest !!!! ;)

Oggoled"" was when young and "Watching all those Girls go bye"  Today ?? it's the love of nature, that has the attraction. Now if I had said -- Lust ?? my 'cheeks' would not be red and no 'hot flushes' either. Lol!  Lol!

Your Naughty Pheonix...lmao

Ahem!!  Well I would go to Her Room, if I knew where it was ??? Is that for a spanking, or to see her 'etchings ?? Lol!  Lol!!

Phoenix .behave !!!  :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

It hurts Pheonix !!!!!!! ;D

Nah! Nothing can Hurt, that goes back to the 50/60s.
Have you noticed, that many elderly people, still preferred those times. just ask yourself why that is ??   and I am not only talking about reverting to growing their own Veggies ??????

i think mainly because we were young lol

True Monty,I have said so many times on here, they were good old days beause we were young.
In 60years time, todays youngsters will look back and say the same about toda.

I dont think it was just because we were young. There was more to do in those days, you could go and play in the park without the fear of some pervert accosting you. The Gay situation was all behind closed doors, religion played a big part in everyones lives. The Girls of those days grew up to be Ladies. The music was nice and you could understand the words.
Money was hard earned and spent wisely.

Just to name a few,lol

Chris, You have taken the words from out of my mouth!!

Bearing in mind, that we was all working and we had a Future to look forward too. Neither was we interested in breaking the law asking for things we were not entitaled too and of course --- Content!!

I am sure they will William,things can only get worse for them,they have to pay off this massive debt and even their  children will be paying it too !
We had it good.

What is it they say about the sixties....if you can remember them you weren't really there, unfortunastely I can remember them  ???

Pauline I think they mean if you remember them you werent on the dope !!!!
werent really there meaning out of it !! :o ;)

Doh!!!  silly me  :-[

You not silly Pauline
you lovely !!! :-*

Did you not know that WE are ALL lovelly people on here LOL!!  One should feel quite Proud, in remembering the 60s. the 50s. and 40s. and some of the 30s. too. To know and understand what our parents went through and forming the basis of our lives. -- that is where it all began.
The late 60s. is where things started to go wrong and has kept going ------ Downwards.

Oh I dont know Pheonix I loved the 60s,I loved the fashion all those lovely long dresses and flowers,and freedom.
I got married in 65,got a house no probs,no probs with jobs,had a child in 68.For me it was lovely ! :)

I can understand where your coming from Pheonix. I was blessed with a Child on Christmas day 1968, our first born.
Such a wonderful experience that was.

But looking back as Pheonix says it was a time when things started going wrong, not in the sense that things happened immediatly, things happened over a period of time, standards dropped, young girls were now liberated from some of the old fashioned values, and they didnt mature as Ladies as they once did, we now had a rough and ready breed of female that we hadnt seen before, sex was now an open subject and women became sexually active without any inhabitions. Dont get me wrong the Lads were no longer expected to do National service, so their discipline and pride went out of the window as well.

Drugs were starting to be introduced to our youth, and the crime rate soured, sadly we have never been able to take control of the situation, and Governments have ignored the normal sane public's screams for normality to be restored.

What a total change I have witnessed over the years. Pricipals,Standards and Disipline, have long since disappeared, to leave us all with what ??   Now the law is being contested as to whether one can take Photos: in a Public place, or even of the police ??  There is No law Against taking photos: in a Public Place and the police have absolutely No Right to ask?? there is a very Good video in 'You tube' and the police just had to walk away. Hurray!! bloody State!!

Sorry my glass is nearly always half full,
but I know what you both mean. :)

Cath,  Really, what are you trying to project (he! he!)
yer glass in half empty, unless yer Drink the Bottom Half --- First?? --- A er, laugh for sunday morning, with Luck ???

I'm with you Cath I think that each generation blames the next for the ills of this world

TY Pauline,
somebody let these drugs in !
somebody wanted girls on the pill !
It never gets solved here it just gets worse !
now my glass is half empty lol

If clicking on the link below does not work, copy and paste it to your browser. Be warned it does have a few choice words in it, but its all true footage. I got it from a very reliable source, who wil remain annonymous! But it shows how the Police and others have decided to make the rules up as thy go!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivpa7LR8h4o

Thats true Chris
but if you have nothing to hide what does it matter ?
in this day and age thats what it takes sadly !

The 50s. was still the very best period. Here I am referring to our life style and Work, with full employment. This is from a man's point of view and I was married in 1953, when everything was getting beter after the war time and people was so much happier and of course, content.

it was a very good year phoenix , it was the year i was born  ;D

You bet it was a very Good year (??) --
The Queens coronation, I was married and Er!! You was Born.
So congratulations on your 56th. Birthday!!

I was born in the 50s,and from growing up and hearing my parents and grandparents over the years talking about how everyone joined together to help each other,the closeness was 2nd to none!..Sadly these days many are out for theirself and many hardly even know their neighbours!..
Such a sad fact of life,but true!..
So many had to struggle and go without,this made them grateful for anything that came their way,many young people these days get it all on a plate and do not appreciate having to save for something and feel proud when they are able to buy whatever it is they need!..Today also I feel it is all about money,so many mums feel they have to go out to work and their children I feel are suffering for this,maybe this is why so many youngsters go wrong,as there is not as much parental guidance as there used to be,and respect has gone out of the window for many!
Saying that though there are a lot of lovely youngsters in this world trying so hard to prove that they are not the same as many of their age group!..

I totally agree with you Marcella but I think in some ways we are to blame... (certainly when I was growing up) money was tight and we did without a lot of things. When we got married and had our own families we wanted  better for our children, so we women out to work as well as our husbands to give them things that we never had. However I do think that since then things have spiraled out of control, tecnology keeps comming up with more and more expensive gismo's people must have, the world is shrinking as foreign holidays become more affordable, the new houses ,the new furniture,the new car, the young have more money in there pockets and they want to experience it all ...now 
Then there are the ones who dont have the work ethic( who I think are the minority not the majority) they see the ones who work with all these things and want the same, they can't afford to buy them and there is only one other way to get them so they help themselves.

Yes I do agree with you Pauline,so much seems to be needed these days and so money has to be earned to buy all this and to pay back for all the loans that so many get to buy everything now and not feel the need to wait!..
In a sense it is a shame for the youngsters who have grown up with it all,as when they go out into the big wide world they too will be under immense pressure to feel the need to live the same,and better than they had lived,so the pressure piles on!..

Yes the 50's have great memories, and there are so many that we share together. But the hard facts are that today we have a different animal when it comes to Motherhood (thats not being offencive). Mothers today have different outlook on life sadly, if their Children need anything the welfare system will find a way of producing the money so that they dont have to struggle like the Mothers did in the 50's.

What a contrast between mothers of the 50s. and mothers of today -- As different as chalk and cheese. The difference between accepting the responcibility of having children and that of expecting help from welfare. Not forgetting, there was no help in the 50s. except, cod liver oil, malt and dried milk and the NHS. started in 1948 for the above.
There was No Greed as there is Today. Yes! I could live through that again.

Basically everyone was in the same boat,and all helped each other,the togetherness was what kept everyone going!..
I feel that today a lot of parents want to still live as they were single,without the responsibilities and also want more and more,so if they work they are away from home more and more,and also I feel that money is no compensation for love,too many parents seem to try and buy their childrens love,and all the child really needs is mum being at home welcoming them from school!..My memories are strong with the love from my mum and not the presents that I got!..

I think we need a no tele day so families have the time to talk more.
I also think mums should be allowed time off work   during holidays to be with their kids.
I am a great believer in `flexi time`
should I stand for parliament ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
I dont have a hope I am too honest  :D

That is what this country needs Cath, 'real' people to get this country cleared of all the mess!..You get on the soap box first and I will join you!..We 'can' make a difference,if only we could have the chance!..

 ;D

Are you ready?  :D

Wait for me I,m coming, Jokes aside, I was a child of the fifties, and have wonderful memories of the simple things in life, like all the girls out side playing skipping, marbles etc and the boys playing conkers,also looking back it was hard as well, with Mother feeding us on bread toasted on the fire, waiting for payday, my parents would repair our shoes to make them last a bit longer,it didn,t do me any harm, so getting back to the way things are today, things are so much easier, people on benefits today have quite a nice standard of life, and wouldn,t be allowed to be without.

The sense of achievement when we had saved for something,was second to none,and it taught us so much,today numerous children seem to just put their hand out and it is filled,all they need to do is ask,there doesn't seem to be many goals these days to reach for,it is all given so young and at once,so by the time these children have reached teenage hood they have basically had it all so they start to look for something else,so many turn to drugs and drink too,so much ripples from this too!..
There are a lot of good youngsters in this world too though,and they could do with being recognised,as they have a struggle to prove that they are not like the picture that has been formed of youngsters today,and I know that all generations say 'Well!.In 'my' day......'..But it is true as with every generation there is change,and always will be,but how it is these days something needs to be done and the sooner the better so we can all be safe on the streets,and we can let children play out again,sounds lovely this,but will it ever be?....

You know what Starlite,I can taste the toast now by the fire,theres nothing like it ! when I make toast now I always put it over the gas burner when its done to try and give it the same flavour !

My dad put cardboard in our shoes when they leaked lol

I would have given anything to have a washer when I was younger with the baby and full time work,I spent my day off at the wash house,and if my day off was sunday I had to do it all by hand !!! nappies the lot !!!
thank God for my mother ! I did this for two years then my lovely Joe got me a washer,a twin tub,blisssssssss.He had walked to work everday for 2 years to get it.
I said he shouldnt have done that and he said `well I like my sunday dinners`and I thought he loved me !!!! :D

Hi Cath, Did your parents, ever use "Jumbo Cement" on the soles of your shoes?? It hardened off something like the bottom of Crepe shoes,known as brothel creepers ??
It was lovelly to read about all those experiances, of the 50s/60s. For me, it certainly was The best time. To add another bit?? "The day That War was declared" had been playing on the white cliffs and came indoors, to hear my Father shout "Quiet" (News Time)-- The silence was deadly!!

Oh yes Phoenix I remember the news as being very important,we had to be quiet too.
But we didnt need telling when Dan Dare was on lol
or Flash Gordon

I can remember as a child being given the job of using the mangle,and that was when I learned pretty quick that fingers can get squashed  ::)..Also the tipler toilet outside having to take a torch with me,while shining around in there one day the light shone onto a spider,it was huge,and I think that was when I learned how to hold on for hours,as I dreaded going in there after that at night!..

Marcella,you forgot to mention what happened when the newspaper ran out  ;) ;D

The mind Boggles  ::) But would be open to suggestions -----should the 'need' arise.  ::) ::) ::)

News of the world was the best for Lav paper, cut up in squares and nailed to the wall off the outside loo  ;) ;)

 ;D I got paid sixpence for cutting all the paper up and adding the string!..

We must have been posh cos we used San Izal toilet paper LOL
I remember the first time my mother bought toilet tissue my dad complained and told her not to buy it any more cos his finger went through the paper  ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ....And now we would rather pass out than use that!..Ouch!..

lol we used to shout `paper,paper` lol nobody ever came !

Oooooo! It was always stocked up as um I was the stockerer upperer,made sure I earned my sixpence so I could buy my dandelion and burdock lolly off the ice-cream at night!.. ;D

These are funny stories but I have no desire to sit in an outside loo !!

Talking of Dandelion and Burdock, mum used to buy a bottle on a Sunday evening along with a dish of ice cream, we would then all have a scoop in a glass topped up with pop lovely jubbley

OMG Pauline I had forgotten about that !!!
the ice cream took the fiz out of the pop !
I think I would be sick if I had it now lol

Ah! Dandelion and Burdock !! Used to be my favourite, so many decades ago from the 'corona' man.

We had corona too Pheonix
did you get Ginger beer too,in a brown stone jar lol
I think my mother got 6 for 1/- lol

I do recall those brown stone jars, but not drinking ginger beer??  The barrel organ comes to mind, as does the knife grinder and the rag man. "Rags,bottles,bones"   surely it cannot be soo long ago ???????????

All those poor goldfish that never lasted very long

Which brings another memory to mind lol
tiddlers (fish) in the bath !!!!
God knows how or why they got there but there were there !
I know dad went fishing lol

Buying a toffee apple for a penny from a little old lady down the street. She somehow got together apples, toffee, sticks, and put them together in a glorious confection upside down on a tray. The warm toffee dripped down to form a hard crusty ring as it cooled, which was delicious to bite in to when you  managed to separate it from the tray. A simple pleasure, but bad for the teeth!

So they say norman,I loved them too,and I still got my teeth !
Treacle apples too.mmmmmmmm

Mmmmmmmmm sometimes you could get coconut
on them, haven,t had one for years, wonder if the grandchildren would like one.

Good question Starlight
how would they know they arent allowed them !!!

Gob Stoppers. 1d each and they lasted you all day ;)

OOOh yes.... what about lemonade crystals and licorice we used to get 9d on a Saturday 6d for the pictures and 3d for the lemonade powder with the licorice to dip in.

It cost my dad 2/- on a saturday afternoon to give the 4 of us 6d each lol and my God it went a long way.I used to buy the sweets that weighed the least thinking I got more lol
Come to think about it now I wonder what mam and dad did when we were at the pictures mmmmmmm  ;D

Cath, Er, I don't kmow what your implying ?? Er! thinks -- Cleaning the Home,  maybe  Lol!!

Geez Chris, I can recall (before the war) buying penny sweets, from the shop that was on a path, on the white cliffs of Dover. Ye gods, thats over 70 years ago. Wow!! It's hard to understand, how our memory, recalls so much when one thinks back.

Nor do I Phoenix..............lol
but I got a sister whenI was 15 lol

Never before, has there been such a 'selection and variety' of any products. We are simply Spoilt for choice. Take 'Milk' for instance ??  Just how many types of milk are there ?? ------ Did not realise that we had so many different ---- Cows. Lol!!

Doesnt taste the same though,nothing does.!

Or does our palette just change as we get older?

You could be right Pauline,or we arent as hungry !
its not just he taste is it,the texture is different and things last so much longer.
When I was abroad one time I got some tomatoes and they were like fruit,sweet,and juicy of course they werent in the common market.Years later I went back and guess what they were in the EU and the tomatoes were just the same as ours.Tasteless !

I know what you mean Cath ,there are lots of things that were popular then that you can't get now, remember bandit biscuits I loved them and I think I remember a malteser bar.

Strange how so little of our food has any taste ??
Yes pauline, I believe our 'palette' does change, although any taste, is possibly grown out of the food now. Just look before you eat, otherwise there is no telling, what we eat ???

I agree,so many foods just don't have the same taste anymore,or even the lovely smell when meat was cooking in the oven!..
Even like eggs when they are stated in supermarkets to be 'barn eggs' they don't have the taste of an egg!..
Also I remember buying a turkey one christmas,popped it in the oven and when I went to baste it the roasting tin was nearly 3/4's full of water!..

My mate has a small allotment,he has free range eggs,even these dont taste the way they used to because the food he feeds them on comes from the EU.So I send all the potatoe peelings etc to them in the vain hope they will taste something like they used to.

Jeez, are we hard to please.Nothing Tastes the same as it used too. Simply because today's producers, don't know the taste we had before. Don't forget they need their profit, so the 'goodness' has to be cut down??  As with poultry, Water is Injected to make the bird --- Heavier and more profit ????

I agree with you Phoenix water is added to so many things now ...ever noticed how wet ham is

Hi Pauline, Yes, sure have it's just like 'junk food' I much prefer Corned beef, at least it looks good ????

I buy my bacon from the butcher who cuts it there and then.

Cath, Personal Service, can never be 'bettered' --- That is one of the good parts, that I miss in todays Living. Prepacked Foods, seem to take away the pleasure of shopping which them becomes a bore and all 'rush' ?????

I go to a local butchers,he might be a little more expensive than the supermarket,but at least his meat tastes like meat,and also he has chops that look like chops,chunky ones,not like the ones that can be bought in supermarkets

Yes we have a good local butcher too he makes gluten free sausage ( they are lovely) for a local school for children with Autism so I am able to enjoy it too, you dont get that in a supermarket.

Wonder why they havent come up with them Pauline ?
I think the person who comes up with sugar free and fat free is a sure fire winner !

With so many people these days with food intolerance and allergies too,surely as you say many would come up with foods that are suitable for many,but saying that there are so many various foods now that so many cannot tolerate!..

hello mac.

i always thought ladies put in the front window, meaning............   "OLD MAN OUT"


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Smiler, Just where have You Been Hiding ??? Get yourself Back in here, we have great need of You!! --- Quite apart from that. I trust that You and Your's are Well ??

Macella, The sudden change from Cakes to Meat comes as a suprise Lol! Will it help ME, to actually Lose some weight ?? -- Say's He, Eating an apple pie wiv his cuppa  Tea ?????????  (a'hem) He!  He!!

Well I thought I should say a few thingies about meat products,only to get that out of the way,hehe,then I can go back to talking about zee cakes >>>>>>> vroom >>> trip,ooops,hehe >>>>>> :D

To lose weight quicker,eat a well balanced diet,and plenty of roughage,this will fill you up for longer,and drink plenty of water!....AND!..Noooo nibbling between meals,oooo more cakes for me,hehe..AHEM!..I mean what a shame you cannot eat some of my buns,such a shame!.......cough

Question:  What is a well balanced diet ?? Seems to be er - cakes and more cakes. It just is not good enough -- says He, buying a mail and two packets of biscuits and a bar of chocolate for me and maltesers for Eve - yesterday ?? I am hoping that Eve will be well enough soon? to go shopping on her own -- just to stop me 'looking at the goodies' --- What do you put in the Water, to make you drink more ????
I have found out something ?? Lots of laughter, does not make one lose weight  :o :o :o

Answer:  :D

Correct!..[Tick]....

And the prize goes to our very ownio Phoenix for guessing correctly that a well balanced diet is actually eating cakes and more cakes!..This is a very staple diet for many including Marcella,although it did not help her to grow upwards (still 4 foot 11 and an importanT 'arf) or even help her to grow brainwards,but she has grown outwards!...(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/burpy_bucket/Laughgiggle.gif)

I don't know what to put in the water to make us drink more,but I have heard that eating dandelions makes you wee more!.. ::) :D

True about lots of laughter does not help to lose weight,but by giggling you won't eat as much so maybe you could join me in a famous Marcella Bun!..Tuck in!..

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Mmm!..They were good weren't they Phoenix?...What are you looking at moi like that for?...hehe...Munch!..Mmm!..*wiping my mouf* [wipe wipe]..

Good things come in little bundles Marcella ,my mum was only 4ft 11ins without the all important 'arf ;D

How on earth did we get to this age with all the stuff we were fed ?
Dripping butties with salt
black puddings
breast of lamb (cos it was cheap)
bacon ribs     (cos they were cheap too )
stork margarine  (yes on bread ) !
sugar butties
full fat milk
neck of lamb stew and dumplings
iced cakes
ice cream
pies and custard...............oooooooooooh how i miss it all  :'(

Hi Marcella, How come I missed out with that Big plate of Buns I saw you with ?? I am sure I recall putting my hand out, to get the last Bun on the plate, when I realised 'Someone' had beatan me to it ??
Thinks??  Marcella, was the only person still eating ????
Lots and Lots of Laughs!!!

Cath, All that Good Food of Yesterday, must have been 'Full of Goodnes' --- No crap, as with today!!

Pies were pies then Cath they had gravy in them, there used to be a little bakers on the main street (can't remember it's name) in Edgerly who sold the best pies I've ever tasted, when you cut them open all the lovely clear "gravy" oozed out. :P

Ooooooh Pauline,sounds just like the ones in the IOM,I cant wait to have another one and I am going to bring some back too !
have a great holiday Pauline. :-*

Ooooo!..Did you not get any then Pheonix?....Wait til I fnd out who that naughty person is,and I will give them a 'Marcella Special'...Nooooo it is not a yummy cake,it is a really good Boooosh and a Bashhhhh!..Now then!..hehe...

These should make up for that naughty 'pincher'...Tuck in,and you can share with everyone as they have a very special ingredient,and that is even diabetics can eat them!... :D


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Oh God Marcella,they were lovely girl ! :D
sugar free cakes you cant beat `em!
thank you soooooooooooo much for finding the time to do them for us,I have however found a sugar
 free jelly now  ;D

Hope you tucked in before Phoenix got to them because erm the last plate full that I brought on he ate them all up!.....OUCH!..Okayyy Phoenix it was moi!.. ::)

I have a feeling that I had just missed out of that plate full of cakes --  Fortunately Cath had taken pity on me and held one back, for Me. Thanks Cath!!

Erm!...Did the one you have had a lot of icing sugar on Phoenix?....Just um that was one mine! :o..Sulk >>>> [slam]>>>>>>> :D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Blimey this 'Arf hour of silliness is going into an all day one for me!......

Marcella.......Grow UP!.....

Marcella.......Grow Up!..... ::) ;D

Marcella dont change,we like you here you make us laugh :D

Oooo!..Do I really?.....I thought maybe zee big boss would have thrown me oRf here by now,maybe though he would be scared of the boooshes and bashes I could give him!..hehe

Well I will give you all another one of my giggles!.....

AHEM!...

There I was minding my ownio business like I do,and I was pottering around in my kitchen,and a knock on the door,it was one of those luverly salesman (not) and he tried to sell me double glazing that I have already got,which he could see!..

Anyway,as I had tried to no avail to send him to my nextdoor but one neighbour,who is um not very nice,hehe,my tummy called 'penny' (my ileo) decided to shoo him away by making the biggest noise ever,he looked at my tum,and I looked at him and he went quick!...hehe....Phew!...I love 'penny' now!..hehe..

So if anyone wants one,they are given free via the NHS,all you need to have to get one is a painful tummy!.. :D

You lot are completly nuts.............but we like it !!!!! ;D ;)

Yep!...Erm would you like some fruit and nut cake?....It is my speciality!... ;D

Cakes??  If your offering, I will send some Pidgeons -- To Collect ???    Lol!!

I will leave them here for you!....>>>>>>>>>


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See you later and I hope you enjoy them,they look so lovely even I could eat them,but I can always make some more!...Toodleooo for now >>>>>>>>

I was asked today ...do I remember the telegraph boys
yes I do but not with good memories they alwasy brought bad news pre telephones didnt they ?

Marcella,   'ave me pidgeons, noy got there yet ??
Shucks! bet they got sidetracked ??? Just not good enough Lol!!

Cath, Yes I remember them well.  How about the magazines -- The 'Picture Post' and The 'Illustrated' especially of our late King, laying In State.--- So very many things have Gone and many more are still Going??????