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What do you think are they being scroungers and greedy or is it a sensible option?
No such thing as a free lunch?
Bob and Paul
Freeganism is a lifestyle choice

They eat food they find in bins and are driven by conscience, not financial need. Meet the freegans.

According to the saying there's no such thing as a free lunch, but freegans beg to differ.

They only eat food they can scavenge for free from supermarket dustbins. Most is only just past its sell-by date, some is still within it but the packaging has been damaged.

The freegan philosophy of "ethical eating" is a reaction against a wasteful society and a way of highlighting how supermarkets dump tonnes of food every year that is still edible.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6933744.stm

There is far too much food on offer at the supermarkets nowadays,I dont know why they throw it away they could just reduce it.
Good luck to Bob and Paul if its what they want to do,why waste it !
shame on the supermarkets though they should be brought to boot !

This is just one aspect of the drop out community that seems to be popular with some of the population at the moment. I think it often starts with kids dropping out of school. they see that there life is going nowhere and they look at there parents lifetime of work and toil and decide to rebel. the web says that freegan's is two words free and veegan meaning no meat or anything to do with killing animals or animal research . they often don't work and travel around in Caravans calling themselves new age travelers. We get a lot of them in skegness around this time of year, they come here for a free holiday.
They make out that they are friends of the earth but you should see the mess they leave behind. There vehicles are untaxed and un-insured but they police won't do anything about it because they know they will be gone before a case gets to court. they say they have a right to live this way but try telling that to someone who has had them living on there doorstep or someone having to pay for repairs after they have been hit by one of there vehicles.
Can't help wondering though if there was a major catastrophy or a war situation who would be able to cope with the aftermath. lol i'm sounding morbid now , time to shut up .

I wish the supermarkets would distribute to a needy charity, like the homeless. Maybe if the people walking the streets had food in their bellies they could contribute to society more than they do. Personally I think its stealing and if the supermarkets reduced all the edible goods at your own risk and these people actually bought it, then it would reduce the waste.Of course more efficient ordering would also do it. ;)

Trouble with supermarkets is they don't care about the waste they're only target is to be bigger and better than the next supermachain, So its a case of bigger choice for customers, buying in bulk so that they can keep prices low and if that means more waste then so be it.

Tesco is one of the worst, they snap up land around them so that they can stop other competitors moving in on them. We had a new tesco built in Skegness 2 years ago and part of the land they bought contain two semi-detatched houses. they slapped a compulsory perchase order on them and 2 familys moved out. Over 2 years on those houses are still boarded up and I have heard of other towns with the same thing happenning . they have no intention of redeveloping them they just want to keep competition away.

That is disgusting there should be a law against them land grabbing that way. We haven't enough homes as it is without leaving them empty for greed.

hello Val, i have just noticed your name..can it be you.
how are you....i have not been on here for a week or so.

best wishes to you Val....no such thing as a free lunch.
i would not like to take it out of a smelly old bin !

Hi Smiler yes it is me  ;D I thought I'd pop in to see how things are and to post the petition and I've just hung around for a bit.

Free Lunch
Do you also have in winter a so-called Vesperkirche (church giving lunch free of charge to people in need and homeless people)?
In our town we have such an organization (managed by the church). They will soon open their doors.

I dont know of any such places here Terri, I  know tjhat the Salvation Army take food to the homeless al year round.

Its might be the same thing(sally army) William as in Germany,theres a lot of churches feeding the poor and homeless at christmas Teri.We also give presents to the kids of needy people.

In our Town, There is a Church hall (soup kitchen) gives one meal a day to The Homeless, though most are now, the 'incoming people'?? need many Volunteers to assist!! This happens Every Day. On their day off, The Salvation Army supply - The latest news this week!!
A large Van, also goes out to some area's to serve those outside our Town!!

Now thats what I call charity !
arent people good ?

Yes!!  Volunteer's are those people that are fully prepared, To put Themselves out, without a thought to their Time and cost -- Totally Selfless!

BLESS THEM ALL, AS WITH THOSE INVOLVED WITH CHARITIES!!

Volunteering is not only giving - it's also getting. You don't get any money for your work, that's true, but sometimes you get a smile or you have the impression that you helped and that cheers you up.
At least in Germany there are such a lot of lonely old persons and they would be lost, if there weren't any volunteers or organisations organising meetings, gym, excursions etc. for them.

Same here Teri long may they reign !

How Important is it to 'Give' someone a Smile????
 If 'freely' given, it speaks a thousand words -- and You may receive one in return ?? --------------

There is a Poem, about Smiling?? But I cannot recall It ??
 'Something about giving a person a smile, because 'they' might have nothing to give' ???????

dont know it phoenix.............but it sounds nice!

Mac, Was looking to You, to let me know It?? Will try going into poems in Google?? Might be lucky ??

GO FOR IT PHOENIX LOL

Poems about 'Smiles' or 'Smiling'??
 Have to try later  ::) ::) ::)

Phoenix, what about this one

S M I L E
Smiling is infectious, you catch it like the flu.
When someone smiled at me today, I started smiling too.

I passed around the corner, and someone saw my grin -
When he smiled I realized, I'd passed it on to him.

I thought about that smile, then I realized its worth,
A single smile, just like mine, could travel 'round the earth.

So, if you feel a smile begin, don't leave it undetected.
Let's start an epidemic quick and get the world infected.

||Author Unknown||

Very good terri, you could be our next poet laurette

nice one Teri !

That is an excellent poem Terri and so true

thank you all - what a luck we have "Internet"

Hi Teri, Terrific !! Thanks for posting poem.

 May it become Infectious as it Travels The World, Hoping for No Known Antidote, to Disperse it!!

Have just E-mailed it to all my Contacts -- May well Improve Their Day !!

and Phoenix have you and your friends already got infected?

That goes without saying !! --- One has to have a 'wacky' sense of Humour, and be slightly Mad?? to Enjoy Life!!

Yer should see my 'laughter lines' ???????

you should see mine !!!!! ;D

Seems sometimes I have to get accustomed to the English way of humour - but I promise to improve .......

Mac, Hum??  The only way I can Check,   Is When Yer Put Yer Photo: on Here?? Gotta get me Magnifying Glass out First an' No Cheating wiv extra ----- makeup ???


Teri,  Yer Gotta have a 'wacky' sense of Humour, To Be Normal ???????? -- Whatever, normal is ?????????

Phoenix,
thank you for the compliment! I just have a German sense of humour.

No Problem! Different Cultures,have varied sense of Humour.
But t'is Nice to share laughter!!  :) :) :) :)

that's true and it sounds everywhere the same!

Phoenix my piccies are too big for the forums so they tell me !
I have tried to downsize them but no luck as yet.!!
and anyway what you dont see dont harm you ? lol

I believe there is a Website that will allow you to make smaller pictures, but cannot remember the name ?? Sorry!!
 I just reckon?? yer keeping us all in 'suspence' wondering what we shall/should see??
 There definately is a way of doing it !!(pics)

Yes I know Phoenix, I have done it on photo bucket then they were too small !!!!!
I cant seem to win   ::)

Mac, if you have Irfan view it's easy, you click on the number of your photo, then you click on the right mouse key and then on VSO Image Resizer and there you can determine which size you want.

Mac, That's It!! Photo. Bucket!! Have never tried it, or to move photos, other than email: Hope You Win!!

Bye the way Mac. Went into Personal Pages. If I have done it correctly?? Came across your post, re-my email address?? It is Open to anyone that wishes to chat anytime?? I have UN-ticked the box and can be read ok!!

Would like to have a go at this personal column but dont know where to start.
I might astound you with my talent lol

William,??  Go on, have a go??  I did finally get there. I think a Cuppa and a Ciggy, must have helped ??

Divulge Yer Hidden Secrets ?????????

william
you never cease to astound me !!!!! ;D

I will have a look see if i can find the personal column

We might be ----- Tickled pink ??   Go for it. I did!!

Do you want all the sordid details or just the juicy bits

just discovered ive got a personal page, dont remember doing it, senility creeping in. it says waiting for update, what do i do now Maurice

me too william I went here but couldnt get it on so gave up !

Come on in?? I had a struggle to find out just How?? To Do It?? -- But I Finally Got there??

William, I used to say?? --- old Age and Maturity!!

But now, as you so rightly say???  Senility!! Creeps In???

I do prefer ----- A Senior Moment!  Touch of Class ?????

Senior moments, not what my friends call it,they say getting doddery

OK!!   So I was being 'over protective' ???
Trying to be Gentle?? To cover up, My very own Blunders ???

William,
you seem far away from getting doddery, as you call it.

Thank youTerri, I try to keep the old brain box active.

B r a v o (or how do you say in the UK?)

I do a cryptic crossword every day, not as good as i used to be but i keep trying, also go for walks every day.

William, compared to you I'm really lazy!

Terri, I dont believe for one minute you are lazy, ladies are always finding things to do.plus you have got your work.I  used to say to my wife, for goodness sake, sit down and have a rest.

... that's what my mother also sometimes says to me, but being active does not really mean training the brain.

T'is a Battle between the Physical and Mental side sometimes!! --- With a 50% chance of winning or losing??

... the best solution would be, if both won!

Teri,William is great for his age theres nowt he cant do !

thank you Mac, I never have had any doubts in this respect....

Ladies you are too kind,I can feel myself blushing

when you are blushing you certainly look very "nice".....

William, Glad it's not just the 'booze' giving yer cheeks, a shine!!   Us 'lads' don't receive many compliments ???

Phoenix are you "fishing for compliments"????

Not at all!! I do not like to receive any compliments!!
 I am The person I am, with my own 'formulated' opinion!!

Now now Pheonix, compliments do make you feel better,you smile and think that was worth doing.

Well ??  Just to know one has done something right, is good enough?????????

Like?? If I don't wake up early to put heating on ??

You dont need the heating on if your asleep pheonix  ;D ;D
nip out of bed put it on then turn over and have another cuddle lol ;D ;D ;D

Don't work like that!! Gotta think of The Boss??
 Needa tha Heat!! ---  Before tea and Biscuits??
 Cuddle ?? You want me to have an Elbow in my Ribs ??

Dont you dare suggest such a thing Mac, we dont want our Pheonix forking out for a Silver Cross

What Proud Days!!  Dad pushing a 'Silver Cross Pram' complete with 'sunshade' for a nice casual stroll ??
The Real Heartfelt Pleasure of showing Baby off ??

Is alright?? I had not forgotten The Dirty Nappie to change when getting Home Again??

Gee?? You sure have cast my mind Back??????
Was it really, so long ago ?????

Lovely prams they were too
as were the pedigree ones
now its all cramped up !!!
my silver cross had
1 in it
1 on a seat on top of it
1 standing on the mudgard
oh   happy days lol
and the shopping underneath
how did we cope  ????? ;D ;D ;D

HOW DID WE COPE?? I GUESS, WITH EXPERIANCE AND INGENEUITY??
WE WON -- WE DID IT -- WE COPED!!  NO MOANS AND GROANS. WAS THERE ANY COMPLAINTS?? AS WITH TODAY?? -- YES!! WE ACTUALLY WALKED TO THE SHOPS, SOMETIMES DAILY TOO. WE MANAGED WITH OUR SHOPPING AND IT WAS SAFE TO LEAVE THE PRAM AND BABY OUTSIDE?? -- WE ARE THE 'SURVIVOR'S ???????
 AS MAC  SAID, JUST LOOK AT THE 'BUGGIES' OF TODAY?? BABIES LOOKED 'CRAMPED UP'??

I t didnt matter how cold it was, bairns were well wrapped up and put outside in thier prams.Only the rain get em in.

Must have helped our immune system?? -- Hardened us up??
 Our Son's and Daughter's Too??  Wonder how Healthy Today's babies, will be in ten years time ??

With the food babies get in Germany at present they must be very healthy in ten years - no ready to serve meals, fresh vegetables, nearly no meat and lots of milk.

AM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THE GERMAN BABIES ARE LOOKED AFTER PROPERLY AND HEALTHY. NOT SURE HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS HERE??

Phoenix,some of our children are told its a treat to go to McDonalds

If our children are so-called teens they go also to MacDonald or Burger King - these fast food restaurants are a real meeting point for the young generation.

Do they eat it too Teri ?
if so ,not a lot of point giving them healthy food when they are babies lol
I dont eat it but I know a lot of people that do

Hum!!  T'is all about Eating Healthy Food?? Yes it used to be an occassional, fast food treat?? but it is now all about people being 'overweight' with too much fast food eating.-- The 'Boffin's' here just cannot agree?? -- 6 would say OK!! - 6 would say No Way!! --- Everything, in moderation?? could be acceptable --- Within Reason ??

What is healthy food, Stew and dumps, Dumps are only suet and flour, but we always told they were good for you.
Our staple food when young was bread and dripping, frowned on today
.

In Germany young people eat also chicken McNugget and Burgers and I read somewhere it wouldn't be as unhealthy as it is, if they didn't use such a lot of fat. The plus is, they always use fresh ingredients. But the only thing I eat is the salad of MacDonald - it's really good and tastes everywhere in Europe the same.

Does anyone remember when it was a real treat to go to the "chippy" and you could get "scatchings" left from the fish..........but no fish ! that was beyond us lol
sometimes you got lucky and some had fish in it !!!!!
eeee those were the days.........6d of chips please  lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

HI WILLIAM, QUITE RIGHT. NOTHING LIKE THE OLDE RECEPIES??
 SO, WHAT IS WRONG WITH BREAD AND DRIPPING ??
 WAS A GOOD STAPLE DIET!! 'EAR WE BE TER PROVE IT??

 TERI, IT IS EITHER TOO MUCH OIL, SALT OR SUGAR?? THAT DOES NOT DO US ANYGOOD? BUT THEY STILL PUT THE SAME AMOUNT IN FOOD??

MAC, YES!!  6p. OF CHIPS AND SCRATCHING PLEASE --- IN NEWSPAPER OF COURSE AND DID NOT DO US ANY HARM, DID IT ??

going back a little further than you Mac, I remember going to the ghippie late on saturday night and having a whale and a ha"penny ( halfpenny) of chips.
 Thw whale was the tail end of the fish and you got a good few chips for a halfpenny then. Wrapped in newspaper as well, so you had something to read while you ate em.

Hi William, The Good old days were full of Fun!!

If I listen to you two I just get nostalgic, but you forget one thing - at that time you earned less money and your working day had much more hours.
Even when I started to work the working day was longer and you had only 2 weeks holidays instead of 6 as at present. To save money I lived with my parents and shared the car with my father, because buying a car would have been much too expensive for me at that time.

True Terri, when I started work there were no paid holidays. no sick pay. We then worked a 48 hr week.When we eventually got holidays with pay, it was only half pay.

William, nevertheless you and Phoenix are convinced that these times were much better - in as far?

I am only in a position to speak for myself.-- Not going back to The War Years:    Married in 1953. Started buying our first Home in '54. - Earnt a lot less money, yet studied and passed exams, to begin my future. Everything was Good, untill the end of the '60s. The Start of the downward slide.-- Yes!! I love 'Nostalgia'- I loved those times. For Me, they was the very best.-- Even when on rare occassions, I worked right through the day and the night, to complete a 'work schedual' = Really Happy Day's !!!!

.. is it possible that you liked them also because you were still much younger and more active?

 Yes!! that goes without saying. The main point being, there was a future, to look forward too. Production Companies was working at full capacity!!  There was Work for All and No scroungers in sight. There was far more Respect for othere's-- and of course, there was "Disapline"
Living was for the Worker!!

for some that life still goes on
lots of young people are building homes and having families
and when they get old it will be their nostalgia
I think there is always a future to look foward to
it just depends on the way you view it.What would our world be like if the young ones were pessimistic,at least they still have the optimism. ;D

Sure, some young people really do try, to make a home and raise a family!!-- Some, take on ready made families! Whether they have a future, is extremely hard to say, but if they stay together?? They may well have a good chance??
 Should they succeed and have Job security (long term) not get into debt, work as a team?? Then they may well look back and remember, these times??

Of course life was great in those days, we were young and carefree, if I was young today, life would also be great.

To be Young Today ??  Not for me!! What are The Jobs out there, Computers?? -- But there again, with the knowledge and skills of yesterday, how would it compare. There is no large engineering production. -- All Gone:
and I am still glad, that I am on the way out:

Phoenix, what you write isn't correct - at least in as far as Germany is concerned - we still have a lot of machine tool works and we still require more engineers than we have on hand - they repeated it today on TV.

Hello Teri, So very pleased that Germany still has their own, Machine Tool Companies!!  I was refering to our country -- Our's are long gone -- But then again I knew that from being in Germany, back in the 60s. at The Machine Tool Exibition  (mesa galand)I believe it was called ?? There was so few British Machines, even then.
 Perhaps there is not the traing as there used to be, for the relevant skills ??

I don't know you must ask the managers of your companies.

Cannot see any companies in the phone book, so don't think there can be many ??

Perhaps they are no longer so big and powerful as they used to be, but there must be some, as British companies are buying German firms - even in our small town.

Teri, Sure gives one a suprise. Why would British companies, buyout German companies ??

Ask them - even the Märklin miniature trains were bought by Kingston (?) - a British firm. So there must still be a lot of money in Britain.

yes \terri. its not all doom and gloom here. Our economy is as strong now as it has been for a while. it does appear though that there is a world wide depression looming

loads of money here teri
its mis-used
the politicians are having a raise AGAIN !!!
well they need it they get £60,000 plus expenses
whereas everyone else can manage on the minimum wage of £5 per hour !!!! says it all.

In Germany they say that our economy starts booming again - so there seems to be a misunderstanding, i.e. the money is not distributed evenly.
It's true the US economy has much troubles, but Americans live differently, they just apply for a loan, then for a new to pay it back and so on ...... This can't be healthy from an economical point of view.

There appears to be many problems in America, at the moment and it can get worse, before it gets better. This in turn reflects on other countries. Hopefully it will not bring about, another Depression?? from which it would be hard to recover!!

On German TV they said, it's dependent on the Chinese (that own the majority of American loans) whether there will be a new depression or not - but how could China profit from it in the end? So, let's hope the best.

Chjne has certainly progressed in the jast 15 years.
 beware the yellow peril, a saying I was taught many years ago.(China)

This talk of China brings back memories of a young man I met about 6 years ago,via church,he was in UK at univercity studing English.When he got his degree he had to go back to China,no ifs or buts,that was it !!!
I still get the odd email from him he has started up a school but still up against the powers that be.He is married now and is expecting his first and only child very soon.He is the sole breadwinner for his family his mother being a widow,this is normal in China for the son to look after their families,he worries who will do it for him if he has a girl.So we are very lucky here arent we we all get a pension of sorts and we dont need our families to help us out.
info;
China is the worse polluted country
then India........

and Mac did you know that a lot of the biologial grown food sold at least in Germany is coming from Bio farms in China?
As to the old age there seems to exist sort of a pension, but it's rather small they told on German TV. However, the one child regulation starts to take revenge in China - there are not enough young people to earn the money required for this old age pension - as per German TV.

Maybe The Eastern Countries want to 'reduce' the great western powers?? -- After all, most products now come from The East?? -- Beware if The Dragon Awakes!!

Yes Teri it was only a matter of time before  nature rebels against the oppressors.
I didnt know about the food Teri
scary isnt it

Phoenix
maybe a lot of the products that come from the east
wouldnt if we didnt buy them ?
then again how would they live ?

Have to read some of the Mags: Shows what other 'serious' minded people, can forsee in the future?? It sure is 'Scary' - for this country and it's people!!

Not to worry, our mps will put things to right when they get thier pay rise.

William, are you sure???

yes William like they always do  ;D ;D ;D

DO YOU REALLY WANT THE M.P.S. to 'stir' THE YORKSHIRE PUDDING ??  ---- I THINK NOT!!

Cant have them stirring the yorks pud. Thats manual work and they are not used to that.  Dont want em coming up with a yorkshire pudding tax.

A Yorkshire pudding tax - poor English - with that much Yorkshire pudding the English eat every week this would be quite a big amount of money.

We Have 'Aunt Bessies' out of a packet  ::) ::)

poor Teri - no Yorkshire pudding from Aunt Bessie. Yorkshire pudding has to be made by herself, if she wants to have one.

Poor Teri,  Yer no did The English Yorkshire Puds?? -- or 'Toad-in-the-Hole' mit gravy????  S'lovelly!! more so with mashed potatoe!! Yummee!!

Get out Ye olde mixing bowl and Yer hand whisk??? and away yer go  ::) ::) ::)

Do you have yorkshire pudding too teri ?

I don't think Teri, would have it from a packet??

Yorkshire pudding is quite unknown in Germany. My daughter wanted it for Christmas dinner, so I cooked it with much gravy on it, as William had recommended me. My family was enthusiastic about it.
In our region we eat "Swabian Spaetzle" (German pasta) with much gravy, roastbeef and potato salad.

Pasta, One of the few foods I have not tried!! ::)

sounds lovely teri

My next lesson will be tripe and onions, I jest.
 German pasta is different from Italian pasta Pheonix, so I am told.

Somehow I just don't fancy pasta. Now tripe and onions, liver and onions or pork chop with kidney?? Yes Please!!
 Tripe and Onions sure goes back, a long way:

have yo ever has tripe and onions teri ?
i dont like it personally i am told it is the pigs belly
and that is enough lol

I tasted them  when I was a child (my parents loved this plate), but I think it's one of the few plates I don't really like. In Germany they cook them and add a bit of vinegar, but for me they taste still somehow "sweet". Moreover, I think you have to order them at the butcher's. Can't remember having seen them lately anywhere except in "tins".
Mac, it's not the pig's belly, but the beef's.

makes no difference Teri  its still yuck !!! ;D

Phoenix whether you like pasta or not, one thing is sure Pasta make happy!!!!!

Teri, if Pasta makes one H-a-p-p-y ?? Perhaps i should try it?? No one hAS SAID WHAT IT 'TASTES' like ??

Phoenix, don't you go in an Italian restaurant from time to time? I love Italian food - they have such a variety of pasta, lasagne, cannelloni, pizza etc. etc. and I cook it, too. Our Spätzle are a different kind of pasta - hand-made yummi, yummi - you say????

Hi Teri, There is really nothing better that I would love to do??  That is to Take Eve out to Dine!! But as Eve could not do that. It is quite impossible:

Phoenix
have you tried a take-away
pasta is delicious dont the right way
with the right sauce
i am sure you must have had spaghetti bol   8)

Mac, If only life was that simple!! We have to be very careful, of what Eve eats because of her digestive problems. We both eat the same?? Docs: app: cancelled as will be Hospital in the morning, unless a Miracle happens??

im not a fan of pasts orspaghetti. but would like to try Terris pasta, perhaps terry you can put the recipe on here

William, that would be a great idea, but what about "scraping" the dough into the hot water? Better I send you a package of "ready to cook" Spätzle for a trial.

Hi Terri, not sure what you mean "scraping the dough". I am looking for spatzel in our supermarkets, but no luck so far

Same here, it's difficult to find English food in German shops - some weeks ago I discovered a shop selling lemon curd. Seems Europeans are not yet as close as they could be!!!

Ah!! Teri,  Lemon Curd??  Have not had that for a very long time. Did not know it was still made.  Used to love it as a change from jam, though must admit I normally go for Peanut butter or Chocolate spread. Thank you for the reminder, I will look for it next shopping day:

Some months ago I got the recipe for it and I made and tasted it - Germans must get accustomed to it. Usually I eat jam or marmalade for breakfast. I bought some peanut butter, but it's not quite my taste.

Peanut Butter can be bought either smooth or nutty, but I prefer it with a little salt added:

I see, the one I bought was sweet.

Hi Teri,  I find that some products are a little too sweet, not forgetting that some have far too much salt??
Depends really on one's taste buds.  I used to enjoy Toast and marmalade for Breakfast, but never give it a thought now. --- Strange how some of our habits change over the course of time ??

Not only our habits change, we change, too. Didn't you notice it?

and our tastes change too. I used to love palony when i was young, I bought some the other day, was really going to enjoy it, How disappointing,it was tasteless.

You poor. That's true all changes.

I got some of that too William
but it was lovely got it off the deli counter !
not in a plastic wrapping

Next time im up that way,I will call in for a palony  tea.

Jeez! Palony, that goes back a long way!! -- We did have some 'Brussels' Pate last week, which we enjoyed (no euro's inside)-- Bought some Lemon Curd saturday, yet to open:

I refuse to buy patte from Europe, having seen on tv the act of pushing food down the gooses throat, maybe its not all made like that.

Glad we did not see that. Thanks for letting us know. Will have to look for something similar, that is English!!

that's true geese are stuffed as we call it to increase the liver required for paté.
Usually I have once a year a roasted goose.  However, frozen geese from Poland and Hungary are sold without any liver and innards at all. In Hungary we use to make a soup of the innards and we spread the grease (fat) on a slice of bread and eat it in the evening.

Hum!! Not happy with that??  have to turn to 'cannablelism' ---- There is a 'surplus' of meat, walking around on two legs  ;D ;D ;D

That's true Phoenix, but what would life be without a good meal lol

not a lot left at our age ..........only food !

Reminds me of  'Oliver Twist'    Food, Glorious Food!!

Please Sir/Madam, Can I have some more  ;D ;D

OK!!  So there is Food, Tea/Coffee ------ and Er!!

COMPUTOR  ;D ;D ;D -- What more do we need  ::) ::) ::)

a little bit of tender loving care lol

" Tender Loving Care" -- Give and Receive every day!!

  The Pleasure of Life!!

HOW LUCKY YOU ARE!

Lucky ??  Yes, I believe so. I count my blessings, because life between two people, is normally one of 'compromise'? -- If only some people would agree to their difference of opinions, maybe life could be happier!!

Phoenix, the differences between two persons living together that's the so-called salt in the soup - imagine how boring it would be if they would always be of the same opinion.

How true!!  -- We do have our 'ups and downs' nothing bad. The only time I feel bored, is when I don't get on top of the jobs. This Weather is playing havoc, for outside work. Could be in for Rain and some Snow??   Yuk!! Less than a month before outdoor Bowls starts?/ --- Anybody else behind their work in the garden?? The Cold Wind sure gets into one:

Havnt got a garden now, praise be, what i have got at the moment is a rotten cold. I used to grow 100s of bedding plants,plant them out too early and the frost gets them, plant them out too late and they dont flower in time. I used to enjoy the challenge though.

Gardening is very difficult at the moment - in Germany we it's rather cold and raining and snowing. I fear we will have white Easter.
In the garden most spring flowers are in bloom - I hope it won't freeze.

Weather sure is playing havoc. The Sun is 'Tempting' when out ?? But that Wind and Rain ?? Better not say what I think  :-X :-X :-X

Same here in Germany and two weeks ago we thought spring had already arrived - what a deception!

Bit like our government then Teri  ;D

I 'second' the motion!! -- all this deception, gets very Trying and tiring!!

However, as to the weather we know it will get better what we can't say for sure regarding the government.

It is going to take a very strong PM to get this country back on an even keel.

It is William....................not a hope !

Does anyone know of The right person, be it Man or Womam, that could possibly Lead this wonderful Country and it's People -- Back on it's feet?? That would be Just and Fair with it's Laws ????? I can't think of anyone. I hope you can ??

Yes I know of a few good politicians phoenix but when they speak up for the people they get sacked.
But you are right we are in dire need of someone.

Mac, You are so right!!  Any really Good politicians FOR The People??  Receive The Medal!! --- The Order of The Boot!!